Influencer marketing has been getting a lot of press lately. But for every blog post we read extolling its virtues, there’s another saying influencers are a waste of marketing time and money.
That’s why we invited Joe Martin, Head of Social Analytics and Brand Evangelist at Adobe, to shed some light on the current state of influencer marketing.
Q1: Has 2017 been the Year of the Influencer or the year influencer marketing was overcome by its own hype?
Many marketers feel that influencer marketing has become a victim of its own hype.
Don’t believe the influencer marketing hype.
A1 2017 is totally the year the hype swallowed everyone who either wanted to be an influencer or work with one. #contentchat
— Martin Lieberman (@martinlieberman) September 11, 2017
A1: Influencer marketing blew up this year, but it seems that the market is getting a little saturated #ContentChat
— Max Bailey (@maxthemarketer) September 11, 2017
Despite the never-ending hype around influencer marketing, many #ContentChat attendees say it’s still a must-have for content marketers.
A1: I mentioned in an @Adobe blog post that 74% of marketers planned to use it in 2016 its growing. https://t.co/ZK4k5uee2s #ContentChat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
Yet, I still think much of this concept is untapped and unrefined. #contentchat https://t.co/XIAWT3vPTH
— Steve Bitter (@stevebitter) September 11, 2017
A1: Influencer marketing increases the chances your message gets viewed. >25% of the Web audience uses ad blockers. #contentchat
— Shelly Lucas (@pisarose) September 11, 2017
Micro-influencers, in particular, have gained notice.
A1. More like the yr of micro-influencers. Celebrity influencers can = ads — not everyone follows the cool kids in school! #ContentChat https://t.co/EBHDnY0zAD
— Su Doyle (@sudoyle) September 11, 2017
Agreed. The value is in niche influence–& the trust influencers build with those niches. #contentchat
— Shelly Lucas (@pisarose) September 11, 2017
A1 Yes, but great examples of changes in this area lately – really focusing on quality, long-term micro-influencer collabs #ContentChat
— Zala Bricelj (@ZalkaB) September 11, 2017
Much of the distaste for influencer marketing that bubbles up stems from a lack of differentiation between celebrity and influence.
A1: Sadly, too much influencer marketing is about celebrity & vanity metrics. Should be subject matter expertise in community. #contentchat
— Josh McCormack (@joshmccormack) September 11, 2017
This puts it best. Still so many misconceptions on what influence actually is! #contentchat https://t.co/rPK8YILYNg
— Chris Barrows (@CBarrows) September 11, 2017
But in a world where people don’t trust ads or brand messaging, influencer marketing is a primary way for a brand to extend their audience.
A1a:My good friend @chelseakrost said “millennial consumers look to their peers to inform their purchasing decisions.” #ContentChat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
A1b: In a social world, influencers can feel like peers especially those where kids follow their daily lives #ContentChat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
First and foremost, for influencer marketing to be more than just hype, a brand has to make a long-term commitment.
Some give in to the hype and do it poorly… others excel and reap the benefits. Influencer marketing can’t be done half-assed. #contentchat
— Monica Norton (@monicalnorton) September 11, 2017
Q2: What is the biggest change we’ve seen in influencer marketing so far this year?
Smart marketers are starting to understand that a large number of followers or being a celebrity isn’t where the value lies in influencer marketing.
Expertise and experience trump celebrity when it comes to influencer marketing.
A2: Most people think celebrity endorsement, but I see much more use of non traditional celebrities #ContentChat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
A2 Absolutely, Joe! We’re seeing the transition of macro (celebrity) to micro (subject matter leader) #InfluencerMarketing now. #ContentChat
— Ian Gertler ☕️ (@IanGertler) September 11, 2017
A2: Smart brands have woken up to the difference between influencers and celebrities and what each brings to the table. #ContentChat
— Erika Heald (@SFerika) September 11, 2017
A2: in B2B space @AdobeExpCloud and other brands appreciate endorsements from respected content authorities #Contentchat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
Well put. Distinction betw Celebrity Influencers & Micro-influencers #ContentChat https://t.co/mXCP0sBtyR
— Su Doyle (@sudoyle) September 11, 2017
But some brands are still throwing big budget dollars at celebrities.
A2 Too many people confusing “paid influence” with more credible brand ambassadors or advocates. #contentchat
— Martin Lieberman (@martinlieberman) September 11, 2017
FTC crackdowns on the lack of transparency with influencer-created content is showing itself in the increased use of #Ad and other public disclosures of brand-purchased content.
A2: I’ve been seeing a lot more “#ad” posts. Seems like the industry is striving to be more transparent #ContentChat
— Max Bailey (@maxthemarketer) September 11, 2017
A2. Emphasis on disclosure: sharing when someone is a paid influencer vs an unpaid fan w/ unsolicited reviews. #ContentChat https://t.co/NwqU28y5kv
— Su Doyle (@sudoyle) September 11, 2017
A2 I’d argue that brands and influencers alike are becoming more transparent about what’s paid and what’s not. #ContentChat
— Hanna Steinker (@Hann_bananz) September 11, 2017
Q3: Are micro-influencers the next big thing in influencer marketing? Or are they an influencer marketplace cash grab?
Over the past year, the term micro-influencer has cropped up to refer to respected industry and community members who don’t have huge social media followings but whose advice is regularly headed and repeated. But some marketers have written off the rise of the micro-influencer as a desperate money grab by influencer platforms without enough big names to go around.
Micro influencers are your content marketing secret weapon.
A3: Micro-influencers are those folks doing the work, not looking to make a career out of being known. They’re da quiet killers #ContentChat
— Maureen Jann (@MaureenOnPoint) September 11, 2017
A3b: Micro-influencers are quietly doing their jobs, digging into the customer challenges, making examples of excellence. #ContentChat
— Maureen Jann (@MaureenOnPoint) September 11, 2017
A3: Micro-Influencers typically get a higher engagement percentage – relative to their following size (under 1,000). #ContentChat
— JMatt (@JMattMke) September 11, 2017
A3 they’re your original “brand advocates.” They found what they love and want others to get that benefit too #ContentChat
— LUCYrk (@LUCYrk78) September 11, 2017
A3: Micro-influencers are finding success b/c they’re identifying a niche group or “tribe” instead of appealing to the masses #contentchat
— LaSalle Network (@LaSalleNetwork) September 11, 2017
Micro-influencers are the quiet ones that the noise-makers go to for due diligence. Never underestimate the power of Marketer-to-Marketer https://t.co/FITvnFtRVZ
— Shira Abel (@shiraabel) September 11, 2017
YES. I recently read this tell-all case study on that very fact: https://t.co/fKdfBDp9M2 #contentchat
— Julia McCoy (@JuliaEMcCoy) September 11, 2017
Find influencers who are already passionate about and already advocating for your brand and build long-term relationships with them.
A3: I think micro influencers are effective if you can find those who really buy into your brand. #ContentChat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
A3b: Brands should look for true advocates of their brand rather than just a one time hired gun #ContentChat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
One thing I wish more brands understood: influencer marketing is NOT a short-term strategy w/quick results. #contentchat
— Shelly Lucas (@pisarose) September 11, 2017
A3 (cont) Micro-influencers need to be genuine (forget authentic) – and truly care about the brand/product. #contentchat
— Chris Barrows (@CBarrows) September 11, 2017
A3: You have the opportunity to build relationships w/micro-influencers and help support their growth. Win-win. #ContentChat
— Erika Heald (@SFerika) September 11, 2017
Q4: What’s one hard lesson brands learned about influencer marketing this year?
You’ll get better results from someone who uses your product or service versus someone whose influence you are renting.
For best results, work with existing customers.
A4: Its good to find people who actually use your products. To get an authenticate voice that’s more than topical #ContentChat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
A4a: One of my fav ambassadors is @DioFavatas . He is a @AdobeExpCloud power user and thought leader https://t.co/U9g0695L1j #ContentChat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
It’s time to shift the focus from paying for campaign participation to building long-term influencer relationships. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t a place for payment.
A5: I think they are still in the process of learning this -> it’s all about a partnership NOT a paid relationship. #contentchat https://t.co/tuR98JU3uN
— Amy Higgins (@amywhiggins) September 11, 2017
Paid influence undoubtedly has its place, but it evaporates as soon as the check clears the bank. #contentchat
— Monica Norton (@monicalnorton) September 11, 2017
If the relationship is based on an organic connection – $ won’t change things. It will enhance them. #contentchat
— Chris Barrows (@CBarrows) September 11, 2017
A4: Brands have learned how important it is to partner with influencers who like your brand, not your $$$. #ContentChat
— Erika Heald (@SFerika) September 11, 2017
Building influencer relationships takes time. You won’t see overnight ROI.
A4. No influencer is going to instantly drive for you ROI that your CMO expects from #SocialMedia. Building community is work. #ContentChat https://t.co/hNUdLe6MHI
— Carlos Gil (@carlosgil83) September 11, 2017
And many agencies don’t push back on clients who say “get me 5 influencers for this campaign.” #ContentChat
— Erika Heald (@SFerika) September 11, 2017
A4b They learned that getting ROI is a delicate balance! – with bots; inflated followers; pods who fake engagement on Insta etc #ContentChat
— comfortwriter (@ComfortWriter) September 11, 2017
Takes several months/ years to build a community, one blog post and few IG photos won’t do the job #ContentChat https://t.co/jhobOWoKdj
— Irina Trofimovskaya (@themiceblog) September 11, 2017
There have been some spectacular influencer marketing campaigns gone awry. Here are a few that continue to be mentioned.
A4: The biggest lesson was The Fyre Festival #ContentChat https://t.co/lryz704Gn8
— Irina Trofimovskaya (@themiceblog) September 11, 2017
A4: They should take a clue from Disney and learn that #pewdiepie might not be the best choice to partner with… #contentchat https://t.co/9ZPUO3wgor
— Warfare Plugins (@warfareplugins) September 11, 2017
A4 You’ll lose more money from bad PR than you ever earned from that influencer if your comms are amateur (eg Pepsi/Fyre Fest) #ContentChat
— comfortwriter (@ComfortWriter) September 11, 2017
Think Subway. Collateral brand damage can hurt. #ContentChat
— Josh McCormack (@joshmccormack) September 11, 2017
Not all influencers are who they say they are…it’s important to do your due diligence. make sure they can drive the results you need.
A4 don’t jump to the “biggest name.” Look at their background, who they REALLY are #ContentChat (cough cough YouTube guy) https://t.co/Am9Ew0LnwV
— LUCYrk (@LUCYrk78) September 11, 2017
Popularity doesn’t equal quality! #ContentChat https://t.co/lyH7QKSHMK
— Maureen Jann (@MaureenOnPoint) September 11, 2017
Yes celebrity may not matter and might actually hurt if influencer doesn’t resonate with community #contentchat
— Scott Lum (@ScottLum) September 11, 2017
A4 Millions of followers does NOT always equal a lot of $ / influencer. High follower #s can be inflated. Hard lesson to learn. #ContentChat
— Julia McCoy (@JuliaEMcCoy) September 11, 2017
Q5: Which brands are doing a good job of building positive word of mouth through influencer marketing?
Not all influencer marketing hits the mark. Here are the campaigns and influencers that stand out the most to #ContentChat attendees.
Brands with solid influencer marketing collaborations.
A5. I love what @RedWingShoes does with their Wall of Honor. Encourages fans to share stories https://t.co/rqL5DSnEzR #contentchat pic.twitter.com/BAA7d9fHSe
— Su Doyle (@sudoyle) September 11, 2017
A5: It seems like the sweet spot is with smaller direct-to-consumer brands. @Gymshark is killing it for women’s fitness. #ContentChat https://t.co/dPMTCdxMXH
— Cali Pitchel (@calipitchel) September 11, 2017
A5: I have worked with @worldcenter in the past travel brands like @marriott do a great job with influencers #ContentChat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
A5: @LushLtd is fantastic at cultivating influencer relationships on the local levels, everywhere they’re in the market. #ContentChat
— Erika Heald (@SFerika) September 11, 2017
I’m a huge fan of @Fluevog using their in-store experts in an influencer capacity to help educate the community. #ContentChat
— Maureen Jann (@MaureenOnPoint) September 11, 2017
A5: @MTV is leveraging their hosts/influencers of the @TRL revival well. Heck, it’s why I even know it’s happening! #ContentChat
— JMatt (@JMattMke) September 11, 2017
A5. I was psyched to see one of my fave fitness bloggers on the @classpass instagram story, real ppl to market their offering #contentchat
— allison ryder (@allisonryder) September 11, 2017
A5: @FabFitFun has gained recognition and built their brand through influencers and micro-influencers on Instagram and Snapchat #contentchat
— LaSalle Network (@LaSalleNetwork) September 11, 2017
A5: @TDAmeritrade‘s Human Finance Project is kind of a cool approach to influencer marketing. https://t.co/0oWt5569AE #contentchat
— Shelly Lucas (@pisarose) September 11, 2017
Industry influencers with impact.
A5: In #HigherEd, I’ve been influenced by people like @lizgross144 + @karinejoly + @JoelRRenner #contentchat
— Chris Barrows (@CBarrows) September 11, 2017
A5: In the world of career and leadership, @MarkSBabbitt is a true leader in the work that he does #contentchat
— Chris Barrows (@CBarrows) September 11, 2017
Q6: Influencer marekting isn’t for everyone. How can you know if influencer marketing is the right approach for your brand?
Because beauty and fitness brands are killing it with influencer marketing, some marketers may think you need have a consumer product to make it work. But our #ContentChat attendees on the whole disagree. But influencer marketing isn’t the right fit for every company.
Start with defining your content strategy including your content marketing goals.
A6 Start w content strategy. Brand guidelines. User stories/journeys/KPIs. Then evaluate which channels/media are best suited #ContentChat
— comfortwriter (@ComfortWriter) September 11, 2017
A6: It goes back to your brand goals. Influencers are right depending on your goals, not your brand #ContentChat https://t.co/MvFMzm5Qtz
— Amy Higgins (@amywhiggins) September 11, 2017
A6 layout of your objective and determine if this arrangement fits w/ your LT marketing plans. #ContentChat https://t.co/vyJV5lCyh4
— Musolé Kambinda (@Musolek) September 11, 2017
Not sure it’s a fit? Test and learn.
A6 Start w content strategy. Brand guidelines. User stories/journeys/KPIs. Then evaluate which channels/media are best suited #ContentChat
— comfortwriter (@ComfortWriter) September 11, 2017
A6: Give it a try . It’s a small world on Twitter, you would be amazed at how quickly you can build relationships. #ContentChat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
If you’re marketing commodities or looking for an immediate result, influencer marketing may not be a good fit.
A6: It goes back to your brand goals. Influencers are right depending on your goals, not your brand #ContentChat https://t.co/MvFMzm5Qtz
— Amy Higgins (@amywhiggins) September 11, 2017
A6: Do you have the ability to make long-term marketing plays? If not, influencer marketing may not be a fit. #ContentChat
— Erika Heald (@SFerika) September 11, 2017
A6: If you have runway. It usu isn’t a quick fix; requires investment over time. (For retail, quick-hit pd influence may work.) #contentchat https://t.co/cY1asymML0
— Monica Norton (@monicalnorton) September 11, 2017
Influencer marketing requires dedicated resources.
A6 There must be infrastructure. Working w/ influencers is hard work. Its more than sending someone free stuff. #contentchat
— Steve Bitter (@stevebitter) September 11, 2017
Q7: How can a marketing team get started with an influencer marketing program?
OK, you’re sold on the benefits of influencer marketing. Now what? Here are the #ContentChat community’s tips for getting started.
Don’t jump in without a plan.
A7: Start by setting goals for yourself. What do you hope to achieve through influencer marketing? #ContentChat
— Express Writers (@ExpWriters) September 11, 2017
A7: Starts internal. What’s OK, what’s out of bounds, what’s our budget? Serious planning before even approaching an influencer #ContentChat
— Brian Anderson (@BrianAndersonPR) September 11, 2017
Start building up your team’s influence.
A7: Become a content creator yourself. You’d be surprised how well you connect with other influencers if you become one #ContentChat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
A7 Practice what/before you preach! Marketing team members must be active (watching & hopefully participating) in the channels. #ContentChat
— Ian Gertler ☕️ 📲 (@IanGertler) September 11, 2017
Engage with your existing community.
A7 jump in and start engaging with people advocating for your brand. https://t.co/9VFcXvJe9n #contentChat https://t.co/64EB1f01Ul
— LUCYrk (@LUCYrk78) September 11, 2017
A7 Invest in a tool like @Zoomph to ID whether people are already talking about your brand, and who is doing it. #contentchat
— Martin Lieberman (@martinlieberman) September 11, 2017
A7: Start by reviewing your existing community and identify influencers in it. Reach out and see how you can help them. #ContentChat
— Erika Heald (@SFerika) September 11, 2017
Get to know your industry influencers.
A7: Talk to clients:who do they ask when they’re researching? Who do they get recommendations from? Who’s blog do they read? #ContentChat
— Maureen Jann (@MaureenOnPoint) September 11, 2017
Start following dozens of potentials, keep your mouth shut, knowing that most will remain potential and one or a few will rise. #contentchat https://t.co/FB3XUm124R
— Steve Bitter (@stevebitter) September 11, 2017
Make influencer engagement a habit.
A7: Make friends. I love the connections I have made with “influencers” on social. Great peeps out there #ContentChat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
A7: Make influencer engagement a habit. Deeply embed relationship-building in your workflow. #contentchat
— Shelly Lucas (@pisarose) September 11, 2017
Q8: What are your tips for getting the most out of an influencer marketing program?
Influencer marketing is not “set it and forget it.” Our community shared their tips for getting the most out of influencer relationships.
Build mutually-beneficial influencer relationships.
A8: Be sure to articulate the value for both sides. Be a booster, help the other party succeed. Create a content strategy. #ContentChat
— Maureen Jann (@MaureenOnPoint) September 11, 2017
A8: In the end, working with influencers should be rewarding for all. It’s how I met @Zonozi and I’m forever grateful for that. #Contentchat
— Chris Barrows 🎙 (@CBarrows) September 11, 2017
Make sure your influencer marketing plan is grounded in reality.
Be realistic in outreach. Be realistic with clients. Be realistic with the influencer. That way, everyone is on the same page #ContentChat
— Brian Anderson (@BrianAndersonPR) September 11, 2017
Clearly define goals and track your results.
A8. Measure the ROI (in a way that works for you) & communicate it to upper mgmt. Get credit for your innovative work! #contentchat
— allison ryder (@allisonryder) September 11, 2017
A8 Honesty and laying out expectations before hand. It’ll help keep communication open #contentchat https://t.co/ExYqwAMD5z
— Musolé Kambinda (@Musolek) September 11, 2017
Build influencer relationships, not just influencer marketing campaigns.
A8: Look at influencer marketing as an ongoing practice, not a series of one-off campaigns. #ContentChat
— Erika Heald (@SFerika) September 11, 2017
A8: Focus on developing partnerships with influencers–not just one off campaigns #ContentChat
— Max Bailey (@maxthemarketer) September 11, 2017
A8: Form relationships first. I honestly feel like I am working with my friends when I work with fellow influencers. #ContentChat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
A8: It’s a give and take, make sure you are helping your friends and not just taking from them #contenchat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
A8 Buy a cheap plane tix and get them to HQ. As they love your brand, letting them see inside gives them new perspective #contentchat
— Steve Bitter (@stevebitter) September 11, 2017
Next Steps
To learn more about influencer marketing, check out this and other resources from Traackr:
Here is a great glossary that @traackr put together on the subject from various thought leaders https://t.co/enjbf8LqBi #ContentChat
— Joe Martin (@joeDmarti) September 11, 2017
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